so if the state passes mandates they will tell the cities, counties and various municipalities you have to pick up the tab. >> cheryl: let me get back now. you are listening to this. let me ask you, who are the people in favor? >> just one point. one thing about prop 30 if it does not pass we will face $67 billion in cuts to -- $6 billion cuts. we will face layoffs, we will face up to 15 furlough days that means closed schools. that is why the teachers and parent groups, san francisco, cole man advocates for schools and parents for public schools, people are lying up behind prop 30. it's the lease we can do for our kids. we can't afford these devastating budget cuts in the middle after school year. >> cheryl: let me bring you in this conversation. how do you counter that. >> i agree with him. this has been going on for years. the people in sacramento are irresponsible with taxpayer's money. >> cheryl: how do we fix it. >> it depends on who we elect but we need to go item by item, just like they found all that money in the state parks system a few months ago. we need to go and look at it